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Adam Welsh - Nueva Zelanda - 10/11/2010 22:25 19 Nov 2010 16:06 #102

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While the principle of having one set of core rules for all World Champs is a fine concept,.......NZAFTA can already see problems with adopting the BFTA rules verbatim. As such we could not vote to adopt them as written.

As mentioned several times previously by NZAFTA, insurance can not be purchased within New Zealand for such a situation. It is a statutory prohibition to insure against any action which breaches the Health and Safety Act, and therefore shooting insurance can not be arranged within the Nations borders. The requirement to observe the H&S Act is more practical in effect, and not based upon abrogating liability due to insurance.

If the insurance is enshrined in WFTF core rules again, we shall have to pull out of hosting unless the competitors own travel insurance is sufficient. New Zealand is a "no fault state" as far as accident insurance for its own citizens and has a state insurance system for medical costs of accidents.

I repeat........no insurance can be purchased within NZ that could be described as "shooting insurance". It is specifically illegal to do so, and one cannot insure against criminal liability here either.

It would be prudent to restrict modifications to the Core Rules to reflect only the "rules of the game to be played", and allow the various Nations RGB's some latitude for their laws and customs when hosting....as WFTF must yield to the laws of whichever land the game is played in. There is more involved than just "international flavour" when discussing hosting RGB's rules, as most have evolved to reflect their own unique laws, customs, power restrictions or lack of.

We await any final proposed set of rules, and will consult with members before coming out in support or against. However the insurance requirement must go as a prerequisite for every Worlds Event before our turn comes around. It would be prudent for some Countries, but should not be compulsory to the point of ruling out NZ from hosting.

Adam Welsh
Secretary
NZAFTA

Tim McSweyn - Canada - 10/11/2010 23:03 19 Nov 2010 16:10 #103

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I was under the impression that the BFTA rules would be used as a starting point and modifications as necessary would be made to them before they were adopted as the WFTF Core Rules. If this is the case, then this problem could be solved easily by rewording this section of the British rules to take into account the laws of the country hosting the Championships.

We, in Canada, also have some small suggested changes to the BFTA rules, but do not want to dismiss the whole idea of the BFTA rules, as they are best set of rules that exist in our opinion. Using them as a framework makes the most sense to CAFTA. We are working on our proposal for the small changes we would like to see.

Perhaps an amended rule for insurance could be formulated that would satisfy all involved. Since NZAFTA may have the greatest concern, they may be in the best position to create the wording that would allow them to host a World Championship.

I am very pleased that these concerns are being sent to all RGBs, so that everyone stays informed.

Tim MacSweyn
CAFTA Chairman
Canada

Volker Bluem - Alemania - 10/11/2010 23:57 19 Nov 2010 16:11 #104

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Hello all,

BDS proposed already about more than a year ago to take the BFTA Rules as a solid base for the WFTF Core Rules. Our German FT Rules are the BFTA Rules adapted to our national firearms law conditions and passed the Federal Administration Office without any change (a rare exception!). Where is the difficulty to sort out all GB-specific paragraphs or sentences to change them into core rules which give objectively a solid and fair shootimg standard for the Worlds which can be accepted by any NGB and which is then supported by the specific national rules of the host country??? BDS is convinced that we need much more comprehensive core rules than the present ones and that those should be based on the BFTA Rules which are -in our opinion- the best ones at all.

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Volker

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Volker Bluem
BDS Fedegeral Sports Director
Field Target Shooting

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Sergio Rita - Portugal - 11/11/2010 00:26 19 Nov 2010 16:12 #105

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The proposal is to use the BFTA rules as a starting point.
If necessary we can remove the specific section of the "shotting insurance" or like Tim said, NZAFTA may create the wording for that specific section/concern.

We, in Portugal, also have some proposals to improve the BFTA rules but at this point the most important is to have something to start.
We believe BFTA rules will give us a good and solid working base to the future WFTF core rules.

Sérgio Rita
FPT - Chairman
Portugal

Adam Welsh - Nueva Zelanda - 11/11/2010 00:31 19 Nov 2010 16:13 #106

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Just so we are not under any misunderstanding, NZAFTA has voted at its recent AGM to adopt WFTF CORE RULES as a class for competition within NZ. Whatever those rules ultimately become automatically applies to that class of competition. That is for that class alone, and we have two other classes to cater for the vast majority of shooters who wish to pursue the traditional style of NZ Field Target as shot here for 20 years plus prior to joining WFTF.

We are not opposed to BFTA rules, as we use them also as a benchmark, but would like to see; as suggested, input from each RGB to modify them into a World Core Rules set, not just adopting the BFTA rules as is.

Insurance aside, there are only minor differences between what we do and what BFTA do.

It would still be important to allow additional classes to be run at the event such as a High Power class where the laws allow. This would be an inclusive and forward looking step, rather than an introverted and exclusive step to take. If FT is to grow, it cannot tie the sport down to an irrelevant legal requirement based upon a power limit from one part of the World. Would be interested in the thoughts of USA, as a founding member of WFTF.





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NZAFTA

Tim McSweyn - Canada - 11/11/2010 01:51 19 Nov 2010 16:14 #107

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Perhaps I am wrong, but I do not recall anyone suggesting that we adopt the BFTA rules as is. However, other than a few items that need to be worded properly in order to fall in line with each countries laws, these rules are proven and work well.

In Canada we have a high power division , up to 20 ft/lb, with almost unlimited hold improvements, similar to the US rules. We also have a WFTF Division that follows the current WFTF Core Rules. We would not be opposed to a sub-class at the World Match, with separate awards provided by the host nation, using high power or what ever set of rules commonly used by that nation, in order to include individuals who choose to shoot in this class. We would prefer that the World Champion/s be declared using one set of rules and one power level so that all competing are doing so on a level playing field.

The WFTF Division or class is gaining popularity in Canada and the US. Many like the challenge of this style of shooting.

Tim MacSweyn
CAFTA Chairman
Canada
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